He hasn't ever fought Grievous with mobility. The hindrances in that fight were there, but not too extensive. ... but Mace Windu crushed his … One of them is his singular purple blade. That suggests at least something of a stalemate between Grievous and Windu, to me at least. Who would win? Or maybe that was I like swords. The Genndy cartoon was declared noncanonical about halfway through the Filoni Clone Wars. I would think that if Obi was in charge of the strike team and every council member (sans mace) returned to Courosant, Obi would make his strike team out of Himself and anakin (again He trusts ani better than almost anyone else in the order) Yoda, Kit Fisto and Ki Adi Mundi. Grievous puts on a good show, but he's no Darth, and he's still angry and humanoid enough that Vaapad would work against him. MAce will probably even the odds by cutting of some of grevious' hands. @i_like_swords: Ventress isn't any less skilful than Grievous is. Boomstick: What give Grievous his biggest edge however is that while the Dragon Fangs is strong to cut through much, It isn't as long range or strong enough against Grievous many MANY lightsabers. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Mace Windu. On Utapau with its hangars and caves aranged for a much closer face to face confrontation Greivous could simply outmatch the ferocity that Mace and his Vaapad style bring to the table. @sirfizzwhizz: I've always maintained that Grievous, Maul, Kenobi and Ventress are all equally skilled. $24.99. Isn't order 67 basically the chancellor version of order 66? I'm just saying, Grievous has far more to bring to the table than Mace the second time around. $12.98. Really? The only difference will be four lightsabers. He hasn't ever fought Grievous with four lightsabers (which is an incredibly unorthodox way to fight in any context). Windu also has great strength, punching through B2 Super battle droids. The droids on Grievous's ship open fire on the gunship with Mace Windu on board. who wins in a purely lightsaber match? Grievous is even quick enough to dodge force attacks as shown when he fought 3 Jedi Masters and 2 Knights at once, with only two lightsabers. (Side note: I believe Soresu-Makashi-DjemSo interactions is like sort of rock-paper-scissor. As for Obi-Wan vs Palpatine, I think Obi's defenses would not lose against Palpatine (Obi-Wan was originally trained in Ataru by Qui-Gon, but later purposely mastered Soresu because Qui-Gon's Ataru lost to Maul's Juyo, the same style which Palpatine uses), but given Palpaltine's skills, Obi would not win either even if Anakin joins forces with him. Mace a slim majority through power. But Grievous is no Makashi master like Dooku. © 2021 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. Mace Windu is the reason Grievous is coughing and he barely escaped with his life. It's like Ask Science, but for all universes other than our own. I rate her lightsaber skill equal to theirs. The Iron Giant The TCW grievous always seemed the consummate dummy to my eyes. There are fights where Grievous doesn't employ acrobatics, and even then, that and height-changing aren't particularly difficult to respond to. Free shipping. So I disagree. I think Mace definitely could have won in that scenario, but, in this one I obviously think Grievous takes a majority. I agree with /u/aichi38 that Grievous would likely beat Windu. I'm a big fan in analyzing lightsaber duel-style interactions so I will be focusing on duel outcomes. In this scenario the trust between Anakin and the Jedi is much stronger. Mace Windu was a Human Jedi Master and arguably the Jedi Order's greatest warrior during the Clone Wars. What we have now is that Grievous is taller, can move his legs more, and uses two additional lightsabers. I generally agree, but think Windu is getting undersold against Grievous; Obi Wan's defensive mastery did fit that situation like a glove, but I don't think Windu's more aggressive style is a death sentence. So much of his planning went into priming Anakin, splitting him from obiwan and anyone else he trusts in the order so that the only place anakin had to turn was to sidious and the darkside that if sidious told anakin who he was while Obiwan was planet side, Sidious went and made a HUGE mistake in the execution of his plan. But that 20% includes his mind, doesn't it? Mace required all of his skill in order to repel Ventress, who Grievous is already superior to. Adam Taurus vs. General Grievous Season 1, Episode 2 Vital statistics Air date 12/17/2020 Written by RohgeKiller Directed by RohgeKiller Episode guide Previous Next Freddy Krueger Vs. Featuring two spring-loaded shooters, a sleek design and storage underneath for the general's four lightsabers, this buildable speeder is the perfect way to immerse any Star Wars fan in high-speed action and adventure. Vs. Mace has analyzed it as well, then, just not to the same extent. Palpatine wouldn’t try to finalize his corruption of Skywalker while Kenobi was on Coruscant and still had time to talk him down. As a young knight in training, Windu kept failing at creating a lightsaber using common kyber crystals. There's also the situations where he wins due to being a tier higher in skill. 10 hours ago, Mace Windu said: The only real difference between the 2 Armies is that 4 of the B1 squads have an extra mini and the bid is slightly different. Ani finds out Palpatines dark secret and brings it to obiwan, Obiwan trusts anakin unlike mace who does hold a bit of a bias against the boy, and would see this as anakin putti g his faith in the order by turning away from someone who Obiwan knows has acted as a father figure where he could not. One that has the potential of being a fatal flaw in his grand design. IMO, Grievous. Palpatine knew that Kenobi was both the best chance of keeping Skywalker in the light and the most likely to defeat Grievous (the final obstacle to the war). The Undertaker Megatron vs. A cautious and wary individual, he was opposed to Anakin Skywalker's acceptance into the Jedi Order and was doubtful of th… No way does Grievous beat Windu; Windu faced Sidious on equal footing (of course whether or not Sidious threw the fight is a big debate), he had the upper hand against Talzin (another Sidious-level opponent), and owned Jango Fett. It's the additional sabers that cause an issue, but that's not really enough to circumvent Mace's skill edge. I can't help but feel that Palpatine would catch wind of the Masters returning home for no apparent reason. That means height changing, acrobatics, four lightsabers, martial arts, hovering ect. Last one . But honestly, strength wouldn't be too much of an issue. I generally agree, but think Windu is getting undersold against Grievous; Obi Wan's defensive mastery did fit that situation like a glove, but I don't think Windu's more aggressive style is a death sentence. Also, it leaves open the question why Palpatine did not use Force Mak again after fight vs Windu, if he could put it on and off at will . I only see the last one being of any use. Er, I'm not sure what your point is here. That, and the fact his strength, speed, durability ect are all quite substantially above Mace's, is enough to bridge the minor skill gap. Crossfire: He started out as a Kaleesh, a reptilian warrior race, named Qymaen jai Sheelel. Yeah, that's fair. Popular . General Grievous vs Mace Windu Thread starter CobaltX105; Start date Sep 29, 2015; Tags star wars; Who won? A second time around he would already be prepared for it whereas Windu now has to adjust to how Grievous fights when he has two extra sabers and his feet aren't clamped to the ground. Mace hasn't analysed Grievous's style in any serious sense of the word. Huh, I though in another thread you said GG is more skilled? Grievous turns and flees on board, coughing furiously. Didnt we have a HUGE argument of Ventress skill vs Maul, and everyone agreed her skill was inferior to Mauls? General Grievous & Droid Army lot 9 minifigures Grievious troopers Star Wars. Grievous turns to face him, igniting four lightsabers, but Windu uses the Force to crush the chest plates protecting the General's organs. Physically inferior, sure. General Grievous as he is seen in the 2003 2D TV show, Clone Wars; To be exact, he has NOT had his chest crushed by Mace Windu; he is at optimal function and health. Featuring spring-loaded shooters, sleek design and storage underneath for the General’s 4 Lightsabers, this fast speeder from the highly successful Star Wars: The Clone Wars animated TV series is the perfect way to immerse any Star Wars fan in Sith vs. Jedi dueling action. A master of every single form of lightsaber combat and numerous aspects of the Force, only Jedi as powerful as Grand Master Yoda could call themselves his peer in battle. Grievous is described as 20% alien 80% robot, while Windu's Vaapad requires some mind games with the opponent (half of the form's precepts taps into the user's inner darkness and the other half uses the opponent's fury against them to form a conducting loop, etc...etc...etc...), which might not work well against robot. Obi was sent to deal with grevous because through the encounters and reports of Gievous' jedi killings the blade masters of the order determined that a defensive style is the best option against an all offensive monster that is Greivous. The guy was trained by Dooku, someone who can match Windu … You are right in one thing though, it's all about trust. Although Grievous would certainly put up a HELL of a fight, he is outmatched.