9mm brass-case FMJ is pushing .40 cents a round for the cheap stuff and I dont see the price dropping anytime soon. Both are top performers. KBCraig, have you tried buying primers recently? A max charge of 27.0 grains posted roughly 1,875 fps with the Speer 180-grain .35 Remington bullet and shot under 1 MOA in my 14-inch Contender. 1. The object was to knock down all five targets in two minutes. Me personally I will gladly take an 1892 or 1894 in .357 instead of a black rifle.. But that being said, your S&W 8 shot Revolver is a nice pistol. This allows, again, for higher velocities and energies than the revolvers made by Ruger and Smith & Wesson. The world's most powerful firearm database. Im not particularly recoil sensitive (though getting old does suck) but from a power-to-controllability ratio standpoint, Ive always found the .357 to be the sweet spot. Extremely accurate, small groupsit reminds me why I got into shooting in the first place. Ruger, super Blackhawk 357, maximum 10 1/2 inch barrel in excellent condition and fire very little comes with original box and papers. Granted, it comes rather dear at $1,214 MSRP, but since the name on it is Marlin instead of Winchester, you should be able to pick it up for much less. .357 inches (all 350 legend) shell case length: Source: www.okshooters.com Found a gunsmith who examined it, he got it working again. One say I will probably add a .357 in a carbine for all around utility in the 100 yards or less range. I much prefer .30 caliber bullets in any of those platforms. The large loop makes solid sense for colder climates like the plains states and Alaska. It lacks a top-mounted rail (you can still install one, the receiver is pre-tapped). Remington is the only manufacturer of brass for this caliber, but Hornady, Speer, Sierra, Remington, Winchester, and several other manufacturers make bullets that work well for the cartridge. The late Bill Ruger got interested and set his people to work. bullets have proven to be the best of the revolver type bullets for all applications.. handgun and rifle. Walther's new Performance Duty Pistol is ready for both concealed carry and conventional service situations. First, I was a guy who dropped the idea, except for a special-purpose handload. With it I have killed deer, antelope, coyotes, feral hogs and. Save your brass and reload. MGM's .357 Maximum chamber has an excellent .358" diameter cylindrical throat, stepped down to .357" far, far superior to factory forcing cone chambers, and very similar to my throating. It has a lot going for it: you can drive a 125 grain JHP .38 to .357 handgun velocities, its 16 barrel is just as handy as an AR, you can reload on the fly like a shotgun, its legal in all 50 states, not frightening to non-POTG, and is simple to operate. Nicks and marks from use in wood and finish. Suppessor equiped lever guns with Subsonic plinker ammo are a hoot to shoot. We cover the 357 MaximumAll you need to know about the 357 Remington Maximum! Own Stock. I always liked the cowboy combo concept of carbine/sidearm same caliber and own lever actions in .44 mag. If a Marlin 336 is a candidate for a successful rebarrel and chamber job in order to use 357 Maximum/Supermag cartridges. The pre-lawyer Rossi 92s are nice guns. .38-40. Long guns get in the way. Bagged in plastic, clean, and well oiled. The .357 Max will out perform the .350 Legend except in one area - rimless. No turnstyle safety on top of the bolt to remove. The Casull is way shorter than the Max and ~the same OAL as the 360 DW. They tried fixing it with a (I think it was either titanium or stainless steel insert) but the Jeanie was already out of the bottle and they were dropped. Browning should build a plant in Utah and make them there, as they own the rights to Winchester now. Considering that there are no problems with this cartridge in single-shot pistols and rifles, it is unfortunate that the revolver problems sullied the reputation of an otherwise fine cartridge. Available with matte finish on steel frames and a highly polished finish on hardened brass frames, these elegantly simple rifles feature 22" round barrels, fully adjustable folding leaf rear sight and brass bead front sights we use on the lever actions, a drilled and tapped provision for optional scope use, walnut front and rear furniture, a marcJ (author) from Mid-MO on July 21, 2015: After becoming accustomed to the cartridge and it's range of uses, I too couldn't believe it never caught on commercially. The .357 Maximum is a "stretched" .357 Magnum case; it's about 0.315 inch longer than its parent. Welcome to the Leverguns.Com Forum. In Stock. Til inauguration day and beyond, demand will likely increase. It works out to about the same as a heavy loaded 38-55 in a Marlin 336. Cheap factory 158gr LRN is subsonic and stupid quiet for those that are complete hereticslike meand suppress their levers. by pwl44m Thu Jul 19, 2012 7:01 pm, Post . Optimize the potentials of the .357 MAGnum by long rethroating the factory chamber. by JerryB Thu Jul 19, 2012 3:00 pm, Post I always attempt to stay in the mid range of the reload manual. The targets were heavy and had to be hit hard and in the right place. Shout, I mean shoots, doesnt rally shout, kind of barks. Re: Reloading the 357 MAXIMUM. The cartridge made its debut in 1983 in the Ruger New Model Blackhawk single-action revolver. by groschen1936 Thu Jul 19, 2012 1:29 pm, Post Load data for 9 loads in caliber .357 Maximum with .355 . Well I did some research and got the ballistics for commercial .357 Magnum ammunition fired from a rifle. When Remington put the special round into production, it got a new (and prophetic) name: .357 Maximum. The 125-grain loads have not quite as much muzzle energy as NATO's standard infantry rifle round, the 5.56x45mm. ), Muzzleloading Modern & Replica Pistols (flint), Muzzleloading Modern & Replica Pistols (perc), United States Patent Firearms Revolvers/Pistols, Century Arms International (CAI) - Shotguns. And you get a couple more rounds in the tube. If you can't locate a H&R/NEF in 357 mag a very decent alternative is a Braztech/Rossi made scaled down clone. . I still have a safe full of ARs, but thinking this Marlin is going to be seeing a lot more range time than they will. Some of the smaller single-action companies produced their version. The fact is, .357 lever action rifles are proven game-getters, as they are well-suited to whitetail and hog hunting in thick timber at close(r) range, inside about 150 yards. The 92 is a round-barrel model, with the metal bits in blued steel and the furniture in black walnut. Nostalgia isnt relevance. Cloudbuster Many shooters used their long-barreled .357 Magnum revolvers but usually longed for a bit more velocity to go with those heavy bullets. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Not question those who do or did so, cause theres something special about shooting a lever action. Looks like AA 1680 is the top powder choice. So naturally, I'm looking at different options and trying to figure out what has the longest range. Of commonly available rifles, 444 marlin seems to be near the top of the heap, ballistics wise. So without further adiou "Welcome". You can shoot 357 Mags through it. by 44shooter Sun Jul 22, 2012 7:34 pm, Post I was shocked when I found out. I have a MGM barrel 24" ProHunter Contour 1:14 twist which allows me to shoot 180 grain bullets and above extremely well. Turns out that my relatively new Ford pickup has plenty of room for a lever gun too. Ruger Blackhawk .357 Maximum. I had the model 19 years ago. The .450 will really put a wallop on your shoulder. Put the .357 Maximum in a rifle or a single-shot pistol, and you see a new picture of this cartridge. Then you wont be caught short. It can shoot 38 special 357 magnum and 357 maximum. If you hand-load long bullets that seat deeply in the case, you may need a longer expander plug to avoid crumpling the case. The MAGnum case with the bullet seated out holds exactly the same charge weights as factory .350 Legend ammo, 21 to 23 gr.! Too bad Winchester lever guns arent still made in the USA. Smooth as butter. My factory Maxi is a 1982 also. Perfect. Good time to start getting ready for the next ammo drought. by groschen1936 Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:49 pm, Post Because many states have recently enacted hunting laws that allow for straight-case centerfire cartridges, in addition to the previous shotgun slugs only. Do you have a case length limitation in your state for a straight wall case? by AJMD429 Sat Jul 21, 2012 2:17 pm, Post by Old Ironsights Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:54 pm, Post 357 maximum rifle For Sale 1000+ Listings Found Page 1 of 317 1 2 3 . I am going to start reloading though as JHP rounds for these calibers are expensive and I am apprehensive about using the easily found round nose bullets on a tube magazine gun. Mounted basic fixed sights on it. Who knew wild turkey's were so stupid!? Funny, but what popped into my head was Arkansas and Alaska arent benighted states. Do the same during Deer Season, and all the critters have suddenly developed a deep phobia of open meadows you can see from far off. While visiting Rugers New Hampshire facility in 1985, I learned that when the company built the California Highway Patrol Commemorative model of the No. Only because the ammo is cheaper. Night and day in service and I didnt have to wait over a month. Max. .357 out of a 20 Henry Big Boy Steel rivals the muzzle energy of a .223 out of an 18 inch. We used Small Rifle primers for all load data, and they did fine with the propellants we tested. Got a lot of positive comments on it. It didn't quite make it, but still knocked the steel rams down. It shoots factory PMC 158 gr soft points into a half inch at 50 yards. That is fast. The 357 Maximum was invented to compete in that contest (most likely?). tend to do quite well in the .357 Maximum. Its the truth about guns, not cooking. As far as commiespretty sure it would get the job done. by Hobie Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:59 am, Post The "U.S. Rifle, Caliber .30, Model of 1903," better-known as the M1903 Springfield, has become one of the most popular U.S. military small arms to collect. $1,050.00 (Save up to 21%) Price $825.00 H012MAW Henry Arms Henry Mares Leg Lever Rifle 357 Magnum 38 Special 5 RD 12.9" $1,133.00 (Save up to 10%) Price $1024.00 H006MML Henry Arms Cimarron 1873 Short Lever Action Rifle .357 Magnum $1,498.00 (Save up to 10%) Price $1355.00 CA271 .357 Magnum Rifle (Hodgdon Data) reloading data with 102 loads. Slower burning powders will enjoy a longer barrel more than faster burning powders. Back in 05, I bought an Interarms marked Rossi model 92SR off of the used rack at a LGS for $200. Similar to the Critter You Are Hunting Effect. The Jelly Head Maximum utilizes an extended taper and fluted ports to tighten patterns up to 20 perc OUR STOCK NUMBER:13211 CONDITION: NEW IN THE BOX MAKE/MODEL: ROSSI..R-92 ACTION: LEVER RIFLE CALIBER: .357 MAGNUM/.38 SPECIAL BARREL: 20" CAPACITY: 12+1 FURNITURE: DARK BRAZILIA Uberti 1873 Cattleman II NM Steel 7 1/2" .357 Mag with Retractable firing pin (356550) This pistol is brand new in the box. But its the old Supply and demand scenario. The youngsters love shooting it with .38 spl. 357 Remington Maximum Additional Loads Below are the all of the bullet and load recipes followed by the groups shot at distance with our 21 357 Max 1:20 Encore barrel. I doubt nothing that Taffin says, but we both know that no gun maker will ever live with that kind of visible damage.But let's step back and look at what the .357 Maximum was designed to do. H110. H&R and Savage both chambered the .357 Maximum in single-shot rifles or combo guns. With higher-performance loads, the .357 carbine almost delivers real rifle ballistics. I Wont be waiting on you to be relevantjust sayin. The winchester representative claimed 2300 fps with a 150gr bullet out of a 20 inch barrel. Either will give hunting accuracy better than a big percentage of "varmint rifles! This year, H&R announced an expansion of its AR-15 lineup, bringing additional "retro" models to the market, including a 9 mm Luger-chambered Colt SMG clone, an M16A2-styled rifle and the carbine-size 723. But it was attached to the saddle..which was (hopefully) attached to the horse. The rifle should be able to shoot all the standard lead .357 bullets, including the 148 gr wadcutters. We show you how. Hot and spiced with nutmeg and cinnamon on a cold day kicks ass, https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/97/56/4e/97564e38ab918eae2103ffa40b24f0c1.jpg. Khalil, Ive got one in .327 Fed Mag and Im here to tell you IT IS SWEET!! .357 MAGnum throated long to accept .357 MAXimum published loads in MAGnum brass, (Ask about other options such as .35 Remington, .358/.356 Winchester.). .357 Maximum is a perfect starter gun for kids to learn and grow on. The world's most powerful firearm database. MSRP is $1,223, but since the name on it is Marlin instead of Winchester, itll command less of a premium in-store. for a velocity of around 1836 fps. Lil Gun is proving to be one of the very best powders for maximum performance in any barrel length, while AA-1680 is still gaining a little more speed per inch in 24 barrels. Jan 23, 2014. Being forced to use the Winchester Trapper, the horror. Remember the name Glenfeild. Todays edition also features a falling block safety, so it can be carried loaded. Lite recoil and is deadly. The .357 Rem. I have a MGM barrel 24" ProHunter Contour 1:14 twist which allows me to shoot 180 grain bullets and above extremely well. Supply and demand. HINT: Academy has Henry Steel Big Boys in stock today, July 29th, for $730. Web the.357 maximum was an effort to give you.357 magnum muzzle velocity at 200 meters. Ps should've gone with 26" would be better. As most revolver . How do the modern .357 loads compare to the first repeaters? I always assumed it was so you didnt lose your rifle when making a Sabre charge and hauling ass on your horse. The .357 Maximum can be a potentially great cast bullet cartridge. lever gun that I own and have ever shot, easy on the arms and has some versatility. While many manufacturers produce copper jacketed or semi-jacketed bullets, as well as spire point for better accuracy at longer ranges, you can cast your own bullets to load this caliber. Was a great gun.I wish someone should resurrect it. In short order, there was a Ruger Blackhawk Maximum and ammo to go with it.Ruger was not the only party on the Maximum bandwagon. A World Record Attempt and everyone is out at the range shooting and practicing. bullets and 1800 (+) fps from 10" barrels at the short end of barrel lengths. The first loads I worked up were with Speers 0.358-inch 180-grain FNSP intended for the .35 Remington. And as far as lever action rifles in pistol calibersthey have never been irrelevant over their 150 year history. As long as components are available, I can handload for it. Some hunters have decided to have single-shot rifles rechambered for the cartridge because it's very easy to handle when fired from a rifle. Here's the 357 Maximum story: Back in the 1980's there was a silhouette competition for pistols out to 200 yards. Back in the day. Id stay away from used Marlins made anywhere from 2005-2015 though. (I bought a Glenfield 30A at a gunshow for $200 about 5 years ago. Made in 1988, nickel, no drag marks on cylinder, factory original box and paperwork, like new! [2] Shortly thereafter, Dan Wesson Firearms and Thompson/Center Arms introduced firearms in this cartridge. Also, at higher velocities, the bullet is able to realize a flatter trajectory meaning longer shots are possible. bullets that allow for velocities Ruger never intended. Based on the serial number it looked like it was made this year. It brings the 38+p up to mid-range 357 revolver ballistics (~1250). 357 Remington Maximum Load Data soft . They usually hide it by using a 24" barreled rifle. That all depends on the powder youre burning. From what I hear the Henry trigger is better though. This fire also flowed upwards in such a way that it encountered the inside edge of the revolver topstrap. Lube is easily made from beeswax and chassis grease. This permits me to throat the MAGnum barrel with a proper minimum diameter cylindrical throat that: Given a long minimum diameter throat, a MAGnum gives better accuracy with standard MAG ammo for those wanting to shoot .357 MAGnum and .38 Special loads while also being able to essentially duplicating .350 Legend factory loadings. It was an 1895 GBL. I only have a little experience with .357 SIG (a friend has a Springfield XDM in said chambering) but it seems a reasonable round. . Not even a Rossi(saw a trick shot dude on a video whos main gun was a Rossi). get the Lee hand press. The action and trigger needed work, so that cost another $125 from my local Gunsmith in Oregon. I bought a new carrier and internal parts and fitted them to feed a loaded 357 Maximum. by BAGTIC Mon Aug 13, 2012 5:14 pm, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited. You can find ammo, and buy it if you can afford it. Its sad that this is a bonus, but for many Americans it is exactly that. Not a bad option if you are living in a slave state. I wish I had bought more..or kept more ..lol. We manufacture Partition, AccuBond, E-Tip, Ballistic Tip, Custom Competition and much more. The .357 Atomic was just a .357 loaded to higher than standard pressures. Just ask! If you didn't know much about this caliber before, hopefully this article has given you some insight into why it is such a great cartridge. In 1983, the .357 Remington Maximum was released as a joint project between Ruger and Remington. The.357 Maximum, formally known as the.357 Remington Maximum or the.357 Max, is a super magnum handgun cartridge originally developed by Elgin Gates as the wildcat.357 SuperMag. So it partly the pandemic, and partly the Presidential election, and then the riots in major cities across the USA. Moku Manu, Hawai'i. Jun 17, 2016. Over time, Sellier & Bellot expanded its product line to include rifle cartridges and smokeless powder. There is an issue in how the hammer and bolt are aligned. Rifle Brass; Rifles; Specialty Long Range; Sub-Caliber Products (.17, .14, .12, & .10 caliber) Cartridge Board Displays; Shotgun ; Firearms; Featured Item.14 Ackley . and especially their 180 gr. Item Number: 534196137. Finally needed cash and sold it to a collector of old west guns. Federal has created a safer, easier and more reliable way to shoot a muzzleloader. Who needs a semi auto rifle. I can probably name a couple dozen powders that will work in the .357. Joseph Von Benedikt visits with Aaron Oelger from Hodgdon about the unprecedented demand on the shooting supply industry. Maybe some lighter .30-30 loads would be better, but .357 would be so good. This is a high-class place so act respectable. The revolvers that were built in this caliber are rare, and consistently go for a premium over other Ruger Blackhawks. If its an American classic you want, the Winchester Model 1892 Carbine is about as classic as it gets. THROATS SHORTER THAN MINE WILL INCREASE PRESSURES. Joe Grine and I spent a day testing it agains the venerable .30-30, and the results astounded us. The .357 Magnum is considerably more powerful than its parent round the .38 Special. Cold hammer-forged barrel results in ultra-precise rifling that provides exceptional accuracy and longevity. It is my go-to gun for self-defense at home and in my car. I make do with a 336 Marlin in .35 Rem. https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/gun-review-rossi-model-92-lever-action-45-colt/, Also not a .357, but a stunning Henry: No joke. . plus i have very bad eyes, and kinda need a scope or a red dot to shoot in a relaxed fashion. Try it you won't regret it. If you use 158-grain bullets on game, I highly recommend softpoints over hollowpoints. Several years back I wanted a light weight all weather stainless steel single shot rifle chambered in 357 magnum, and the Rossi was the answer. To reload the .357, a Lee Loader is all you need, plus a supply of primers, a pound of powder and bullets. Last one I owned was an 1889 Marlin in .44-40. There are even night sights available from aftermarket suppliers. And of course, such a gun would have to have a longer frame for the longer cylinder for the longer cartridge. They seem to have gotten a lot better in the last 5 years ago or so. Designed to use popular handgun calibers, it allowed shooters to carry a single caliber of ammo. So there are several options available that are much less expensive than the fine examples listed in the article. When the gun fired, it behaved like all revolvers in that the powder charge in those long chambers burned at a very high temperature. Dies, a dipper set and some components and you are gtg. New cartridge and rifle. Barrel shoots Hornady 180 grain XTPs very well. Did you go with the .375 Supermag rather than the .375 Winchester due to case length restrictions? Take a lever action over an AR every day. I saw your reference to benighted states and then AR, AK. The more the merrier. $1,379.99. The max lead . Loads for .357 Magnum: (Note: These are near maximum loads, you should use 10% less to start. As a recap on hand loads, I would suggest that anyone wishing to hunt with the .357 rifle should .
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